Roys detailed evidence from former Harvest elders, employees, and members that . Jesus help us. The elder board of Harvest Bible Chapel formally apologized to independent journalist Julie Roys and several former members, months after joining founder James MacDonald in a defamation lawsuit accusing them of publishing false information about the church's management and finances last fall. You know, they asked him as an executive committee member and the elder board chairman. I did not. But again, reading those letters, and it does have a different impact when you read the actual letter than someone summarizes it. Because it was still a time when many elders were not admitting any of the wrongs that they had done. At the end of that weekend, before James MacDonald got fired in February 2019. 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In this episode of The Roys Report, former Harvest elder, Dan George, joins Julie to tell the real story of MacDonalds firing. Following allegations of years-long bullying and financial misconduct, the lead pastor and executive team of an Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch, Everyone was laughing and goading, like it was a jokeuntil it wasnt. | (Photo: Harvest Bible Chapel video screen grab) Harvest Bible Chapel has dropped a lawsuit against author and journalist Julie Roys and the writers of the Elephant's Debt blog amid public scrutiny for an alleged culture of fear, intimidation, and financial mismanagement. You dont know how I got ahold of them. Thats about my attitude lately. Because if he resigns, he gets up in front of the church, gets to spin things, and, you know, can probably relaunch somewhere else. But like you do what that says and the people responded as you hope Christians do. He would probably be wildly successful. John MacArthur, for example, has preached, Scripture does not automatically permit divorce in the case of a physically abusive husband. Instead, MacArthur urges abused wives not to provoke any circumstances that will make your husband become violent. But if he continues to be abusive, The wife should remove herself from danger by fleeing the home if necessary.. We had to deal with it. And so really appreciate that and appreciate the time at which you did that. . Just look at King David . So these letters, and this is what I found really riveting about your story, is when these letters were first given, as you said, they were given to pastors, with the exception of Sandys letter that went directly to you. 1) Julie Roys. Why is it important to you to let people know what really happened? That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. I said, Sandy, Im so sorry, for what happened on my watch. Were supposed to approve this budget, and we dont even have a line item. Hi. And, again, this is five days after I published my expose of Harvest and World Magazine. Is that an accurate representation? He says, Well, for when I kept silent my bones wasted through my groaning all day long for day and night, your hand was heavy upon me. Jared Prayed for you just now. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. The Asbury Revival Is Over. You do that, and hope that the person will repent, and that they will turn and that therell be restoration. How much do you make? How come church leaders and male congregants are always beating up the women with this particular Scripture but no one ever (to my knowledge) addresses the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church? And at this point, the letters, what had happened with the letters? We turned out to have six witnesses who wrote 28 pages with innumerable charges. *Correction: A previous version of this story incorrectly reported that Visconti and Generation Church had deleted their social media accounts. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. And there was a group and we had two prayer meetings of people who had been former elders, staff people who have gone on the record with me. Like wow! And I turned to Scripture, and I went to Psalm 32, where you know, the companion to Psalm 51, where Davids writing. Yeah. And a few days later James MacDonald's sons, Luke and . Still. Very loyal to James McDonald. Divorce is a civil remedy that is necessary when there is abuse, physical, emotional, financial, or even when people are incompatible. They said no, for various reasons. These were people bringing charges against an elder. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. Because I believe in the church. Theres no joy in doing this. If not, youre probably looking at what Paul latter in the chapter describes as an immature child. And there were meetings on Wednesday, where James McDonald was informed of the decision of the elder board. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Ive already told you there was consensus from board. What does the bible say about that? I stepped into a conference room. Dan was one of the elders who fired James McDonald. I wish Id never done it. In that same meeting that same Thursday night, he argued, the elders shouldnt have the letters. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. None of those charges were looked into. Ministry News. Prominent evangelical scholar, author, and missiologist, Ed Stetzer, is leaving his position as executive director of Wheaton Colleges The Billy Graham Center to become dean, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of, An Arizona megachurch has hired Landon MacDonald as a lead pastor, despite allegations MacDonald bullied and abused those in his care while pastoring at Harvest, It has been said, Show me a persons checkbook and I can tell you what he cares about. Social Action, 1964 James MacDonald, the, Christian actor Kirk Cameron on Monday featured disgraced pastor James MacDonald as a guest on Camerons TBN Takeaways program on biblical illiteracy. MacDonald was fired, Mark DeMoss, a man described by Christianity Today as Evangelicalisms PR Guru and a former Liberty University trustee, is apparently spending time with two men, Its been more than two years since Harvest Bible Chapel fired James MacDonald for engaging in conduct . On January 7, 2019, Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys and four other individuals. Jesus died on the cross for to take the weight of our sin so that we could be released from it. Not saying anything about the about the men in the room, but that becomes unwieldy. What Happens Now? And it was just a deep sadness, deep sadness. (We're a church of around 4,000 members & regular attenders.) Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Others as well, who were defending and saying, well, the elders shouldnt even have these letters we had agreed, they go to the reconciliation team. But to also say, this was this was my fault, too. So who is he talking about? (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. Anne Green, who is married, alleged that MacDonald touched her inappropriately on a private plane in 2005. @Cynthia Wright Love your comment. Maybe not as profoundly as somebody whod been involved so long, but it was powerful. It is grounds for separation but not divorce., This view is popular in fundamentalist Christian circles. I did not cover my iniquity. Ed Stetzer was given a car by James MacDonald, along with a bunch of cash and other things that Roys documents in her reporting. And my job was to get it to fellow elder board. If you went back to when the Elephants Debt was launched, I think this is telling. I mean, here he is in Haiti, thats just been wracked by an earthquake, unbelievable poverty and devastation. I had been investigating Harvest for months. James MacDonald, who was recently fired as senior pastor at Harvest Bible Chapel, is now facing an allegation of sexual misconduct by the church's former worship leader. I wasnt looking forward to that. Jennifer And this is this was this was hard, but at the end of the night, we talked through it, we shared things from the letters. It didnt sit right with me when I heard about it, that the church was suing you, and the Mahoneys, and the Bryants. So that tells you something about the backbone and the integrity of Dan Marquardt. After you guys. And Im just grateful that finally, the board, open their eyes. I know its your hope too, Dan, and I just want to thank you. to anyone whos been a part of, of what went on. Jacob Ross, all the credit card that James used for personal expenses. Dan currently is an executive and leadership coach and the founder of Front Seat Leadership. So you werent part of the lawsuit. Pastor James will provide answers in upcoming featured video posts. Its funny how things turn out, and this situation isnt wrapped up, yet. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. And we would be loved, it would actually be a loving thing for us to do. In 2018, Roys' journalism exposed the now-former senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) James MacDonald for his aggressive leadership style and abuse of the church's finances. But James McDonald, he did not like to fly with the commoners, from what I understand. You can unconditionally love someone. And I stopped my car. So Rick had been there 29 plus years. Yet another American megachurch is immersed in accusations of wrongdoings. But it was dark. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. harmful to the best interests, Disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, continued his tirade against me and The Roys Report on Tuesday, repeatedly calling me #JRgossipslut and asserting that I am, According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. Also, if youre in the market for a car, I encourage you to check out my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. No One Knows. But again, you push that issue, you got those letters. . We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. So its critically important that the truth be told. And Im just trying to smear him. And when he sees he cant save it, it sounds like then he was trying to lobby for being able to resign, and a lot of emotional manipulation being used that weekend from from what youve told me. And that was the day that Mancow Muller aired these excerpts. My husband and I pray that anyone who has been hurt or used by Im can heal. For more information just go to Judsonu.edu/visit. And man, if you go back and listen to this morning, morning show I I just, I remember turning on the radio and hearing this, you know, Old MacDonald had a call, e-i, e-i, o This young man had put together it only Mancow can can deliver something the way that he does. I believe the board was deceived by Satan. . But the other letters, my understanding is they came in, and youre in a meeting with the other elders. As youll hear in this podcast, there was a strong push to suppress those letters by those loyal to James McDonald. And there is one thing we know about Satan. He scared me in bible college I wanted nothing to do with him. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. I payed for you and James. . Harvest didnt know what it looked like to not have him as a senior pastor. And I know it was a battle. I had asked one of the one of the people on the reconciliation team earlier that day, I said, Im going to go into a meeting with James McDonald and I need I need to have the letters I need to know. The leaders in our church spoke like KJ era British people when they prayed, I always wondered why. For narcissists, attracting attention is the point. Five of the six have been published. So Rick was, in effect, the Assistant senior pastor. 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But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. Not all he said was false because then it would have been obvious to any discerning Christian. Theres 30 men in the room. I dont understand how folks in a church can continue to contribute to the church knowing that a significant portion of their contributions have gone / are going to line someones pocket in this dispute. If hes ok with lying it places doubt on the gospel. No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. It was the elders failure. And I checked my voicemail. Thanks for for standing up for what was right. No, Im just reporting. (Proverbs 27:12). She first came to my attention with James MacDonald, then with Ravi Zacharias, and now John McArthur plus one of his side-kicks is in her cross-hairs. And we shouldnt be, you know, happy with standing in line and say, well, so and so said that, right? Search my early tweet history. It basically says Jesus is as real as Santa Claus. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Dan resigned from the Harvest elder board in March 2019, calling for reform. No one takes joy in doing this. And and Im still feeling it and Im still hearing from people. And I had already written back to Executive Committee Chairman at the time and said, we cannot say unconditional support. For more information on Marquardt Buick go to buyacar123.com. Its come to this. Like this had been a months long drawn out battle. Other posts decried abortion, transgenderism, and Christians who are apolitical or nice.. The multi-campus Harvest Bible Chapel in greater Chicago along with founder James MacDonald, has slapped several former workers and independent journalist Julie Roys with a defamation lawsuit alleging the publication of false information about the church, its finances and governance that resulted in the loss of 2,000 members. However, MacDonald texted me an invitation to appear with him in a public forum to answer for the many many lies Ive reportedly written about him. How can we approve this? Also, in addition to those, you have the letter that was written by eight former elders at Harvest, who brought them in 2012, to the elder board, and within 24 hours, were excommunicated for bringing charges against James McDonald. And and that would be my word to James McDonald. Vernick, however, believes abuse is grounds for divorce. I thought the weight was dealing with everything else in there was a weight, but that was the weight. 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