Supposedly he took them out of school and said they wouldnt be coming back. Youre obviously trolling! The graphic autopsy reports detail the condition of all three bodies after they were recovered from an oil site owned by Anadarko Petroluem, where Chris Watts buried them. She didnt try to bite him? Gallstones form over a period of time, raised hormone levels in pregnancy contribute to them. The entire thing is horrific, but theres a lot of misinformation and misunderstanding going on several people mentioning the hyoid bone being in tact or the lack of patechia but I can tell you from experience- Ive seen severe patechia in a sick womans eyes and also in a drowning victim (age 2)- but in all 3 bodies Ive observed during transport or autopsy- none had patechia and none had thier hyoid disturbed- Ive only ever seen it broken in hanging/suicide cases or once in an auto accident that involved crushing injuries to the head and neck. That goes against every human primal instinct we have, it just wouldnt happen. All those purchases, that expensive leased SUV that LeVel would only give her a car allowance for if she kept her sales up, the expensive preschool, the too-big house with all the fancy furnishings, several closets full of expensive shoes-shoes-shoes (yet she wore the same pair of flipflops every day), multiple purses, more clothes than one person could possibly be using, on and on and on. And I doubt this person is a doctor who can just diagnose ppl he doesnt know either. Had he planned this out, he would have killed them earlier, left in the middle of the night, in the dark, to dispose of the bodiesnot as the sun was coming up as seen in the tape. Here is what the International OCD Foundation says. Thanks! I also have seen that neighbors vid of the loading of truck & see a female in video helping him load up , and even a small luve figure of a child. Watts has since pleaded guilty to killing his wife and daughters, as well as a charge of unlawful termination of a pregnancy. This would also suggest that the Stranglehold was done with a right arm, as this would correlate to the right-sided internal bruising, and the left-sided external bruising. He continuously maintained throughout the entire interrogation that he would never hurt those kids. A person who is killed and immediately wrapped up and taken out of the home within an hour isnt going to be in rigor in that time- the first rigor shows up in about 1-2 hours, and then takes about 12 hrs to fully develop Then dissipates again about 12 hours later. However, the autopsy does not detail the size or spacing of these marks sufficiently to form an educated opinion. So that indicates perhaps that she and Bella were murdered around the same time as Shanann Im guessing. They asked him ways to murder somebody & he said shoot someone, hit them with a club, stab them, run them over, throw them off a cliff, a bunch of other weird ways but steering wide of strangling. Unfortunately, I know what its like to be strangled. but I dont think she ever went upstairs, not even to check on the girls. Nick, have any of her docs said she had clinical OCD? Good to have a former forensic detective around. Bella was wearing pink pajama-type top with images of hearts and butterflies. Poor thing. There was no oil in Ceces stomach. A CHOKEHOLD usually involves cutting off the air supply, (air choke or tracheal choke) a STRANGLEHOLD involves cutting off the blood supply. Would love your thoughts, please comment. It takes 4 5 hours for a stomach to empty after eating. [UPDATED] | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, Watts Sentencing: Live Coverage and Analysis [Updated throughout the day] | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, Crime News November 2018 | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, The murder of the Watts children at CERVI 319 as Dramatized in FAMILY MAN, FAMILY MURDERER | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. You get to know the people involved in a criminal investigation pretty well after writing 4 x 30 000+ word narratives. One of the unknowns in this case is why Watts did what he did. Watts, who had initially reported them missing and had made a public plea for their return, was arrested as he admitted to killing them. I agree. I tend to have the feeling ; with the way the justice system and penalties are enforced in the US .that he is probably in solitary confinement for his own protection!! The police reports contain several photos showing the oil drums where the childrens bodies were found. Please have respect for people who suffer with the condition, and research it before you comment about it. So what are you saying? The attack was pure power and violence. @Lisa oh hell, if your description is an accurate one for a diagnosis of OCD, then I reckon I have it too! Shananns Autopsy Report states, There is a linear array of variably sized, purple black circular defects which extend from the inferior aspect of the chin, along the jawline, up the left aspect of the face, towards the left temporal area. ShanAnn claimed to be pulling down $80,000 a year. If he straddled her chest, and pins her arms down with his knees, she would have been incapacitated. He pushes her off CeCe and strangles her with both hands ( he demonstrates ) Several life experiences may also have contributed to and promoted OCD-like behaviours in Shanann too the loss of financial control during bankruptcy, divorce, car accident, illness etc all contribute to a person seeking the need for regaining control of their life which can manifest as a place for everything and everything in its place behaviours. She left him a note the morning she left for Arizona and it was very loving & positive. I would put the blame on Chris! The reports show that the bodies of both little girls were placed inside oil containers with a narrow opening that was only 8 inches in diameter. Did you have to cover something up for Shannan? Ive slept in my bra for 25 years since I got my first breast implants. That does not necessarily equate to being a psychiatric disorder, just personal empowerment. Why else would he go there with 3 bodies? I slept in my bras with all four of my pregnancies. Chris Watts isnt my hero. He tells his vindictive wife that he wants out. It was the early hours of the morning, she was pregnant, fed up with airport holdups and storms, and tired. For the sake that they did poop, youre assuming he didnt clean it up in the bed. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. I am 57, I weigh 132 lbs.. .,,, I had my husband straddle my chest and pin my arms down and Im telling you right now, I could not move. https://letsqueerthingsup.com/2018/05/12/i-didnt-know-i-had-ocd-heres-why-the-stereotypes-are-so-harmful/, She wasnt OCD, and even if she was, what does it matter? Exhausting and she was pregnant. I had assumed all the way through that he had used a pillow. But legally it was in Chriss name. The autopsy is commenced at 1030 hours, on August 17, 2018 on the body of Shanann Watts at the McKee Medical Center, Loveland, CO. I mean, nothing can be done of course, it is done and is over of course, I am stating the very obvious. Death by asphyxiation in each case. He was asleep. She should have seen my house when my kids were little. There is a text I think to chris. Utter Rubbish! I wouldnt throw that out the window. Actually I have a sad experience of watching both my mother and brother pass away in front of me. One of the predatory marketing techniques used by MLMs (which overwhelmingly target MOMs) is that they can be at home *with* their children, making extra money with little effort. What about rigormortis? Ive been reading this whole thread and as I always respect other ppls views and opinions as much as I can, there is one contributor to this conversation that thinks they know everything sigh. He knew that he would be at those oil tanks by himself that morning. You know what they say, Sara.once you let your attacker get paper bags on your hands, theres no defending yourself. Thoughts? Watts previously told investigators that Shannan's killing was a spur-of-the-moment crime of passion and didn't admit to planning it. Not Shanann! @nickdvl. What are the odds???? https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/rohde-court-told-of-faeces-in-spier-hotel-room-15629834. When you are larger or they are tender, especially when pregnant, it is easier to sleep in them. 2. It is my observation that Bella was unconscious but still breathing when she was and stomped on her head to get her into the tank. ShanAnn had been in a total of 6 MLMs that I could identify (Amway, Origami Owl, LulaRoe, Younique, ItWorks!, Thirty One, and Thrive oops, thats SEVEN); theyd already had to file bankruptcy in 2015; and now they were about to lose their house due to not being able to pay their bills. Because you asked if I hurt her and I said no but I hurt her emotionally the agents said they already knew about Nikki which took Chris by surprise, he then realizes shes talked to the police. Some people believe his story that Shannan killed the kids like he said. It takes 2-4 min for a person to die from smothering or strangulation. The autopsy report said that Shanann had a "history of being reported. She even labelled food in her kitchen. @Carol: OCD appears at least 5 times in the Discovery Documents. He was holding me down by sitting on me, one leg on each side of my stomache. Its a matter of body position. How do you or any of us know what her last words to Chris were? Not on his hands around her throat? After reading your response Im wondering if this was filled with ethanol or some similar agent. (blood chokes, carotid restraints or sleeper holds) Was Niko Buried With Shan'ann Watts? I would like to read the discovery how do I find it? Amy thoughts on her? If we can believe his scenario, that also sounds like Shannn wasnt trying to kill her daughter like Chris thought, which meant neither of them killed her which leaves someone who must have entered the home by using an access code that wouldnt trip the alarm and I wonder who that might be ((cough*mistress*cough)) if Chriss scenario is correct of course! And his mistress tells him she wants to be the one to have his first boy prior to the murders and surprise after finding out she is having a boy , she is now dead. Kaye, this sounds plausible. The detective said not really. If Shanann tried to claw his neck I would think he would have cuts there. Areas of bruising, internal. In addition, it became clear that she used bed as a punishment. He did something to immobilize or pin down her arms. 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