It does once I release (reset) the trigger. JavaScript is disabled. This is only going to be used at the range. If you aren't getting drag marks on the underneath side of the slide from it, I would leave it be, other than giving it and the bar itself a good polishing. I was not really paying attention to what he did. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. It was a good deal, and now I know why. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. Glocks are pretty simple really. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. The problem was a Ghost firing pin safely spring. I run Zev guide rods and adapter rings on my Gen4 17 and 21, along with ISMI recoil springs that are 15lb rated. With that said I dont really see how your issue is being caused by the trigger. I think the mag springs might have been pretty tight too, 'cause mine seemed to want to hang on the first couple of rounds out of the mag. is the cruciform on the trigger bar seated properly in the trigger mechanism housing? I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. If so swap slides and eliminate the slide being the issue. To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. JavaScript is disabled. I'm sorry it took me so long to reply, but life got in the way. Some of it might be the tolerance of your frame itself. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. SJ 40, thank you! Have you tried shooting it? The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. Display as a link instead, You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. Display as a link instead, BTW, the Cold Bore work is really nice! I just made the switch to CO from Production with my 34.5 MOS. When I say it won't go back into battery I mean when I hand cycle the slide and let it down easy. You must log in or register to reply here. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. This allows me to use my loads (in 9mm, I'm usually around 3.4 - 3.7gr Titegroup under a 124gr JHP) and the gun runs flawlessly. Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! The Barbie dolls are mine. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. Or you can order them for like 2-3 bucks offline from Midway or Brownells. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. Any ideas on what the issue might be? In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. Any update on this? If it does, its hitting that bump too high. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. If that doesn't work I would also suggest installing a heavier recoil spring and a heavier trigger spring. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. Something is WRONG, either modifications, misassembled, or maintenance. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. 1. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? Your previous content has been restored. Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. Is this RSA going to $hit already? Upload or insert images from URL. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. I have a couple Dawson and Henning magazine extensions. Got back to the range today happened a little less (still did not get any factory ammo yet) After looking at the slide there is some ware marks at some points and thinking maybe this might be little to thick on the coating i could be wrong just a thought. Does the gun run OK or is it failing to go into battery during live fire? Pasted as rich text. first 50 rounds about 20% had a bulge in the casing at the base of the bullet, causing the slide not to go into battery. Something he has seen in the field. One new winner* is announced every week! I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. Yes i am. My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. I think the increased slide weight is preventing the rsa from becoming fully compressed during the recoil cycle using the handloads. My Glock trigger was/is the same as my Timney, 2.5#. Haha.). Things to note on a P80 is that the rails are sometimes not within spec for earlier models. I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. Got the second trigger for the 34.3, dropped in no problem. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. I will look into it. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You can post now and register later. The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. I like the idea of using a second gun to diagnose. I have Timney triggers in two Glock 17 Gen 4 MOS pistols that I run in USPSA CO. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Its light but mushy. Advise requested, a question about requiring the FEDERAL 4473 form, SB 1 and SB 858 Committee vote Friday at 9 AM, Old Racist Gun Laws Enter Modern-Day Legal Battles, New Gun Giveaway! - Bren. Oh its not a logical move. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. Did not have any problems before I had this milled. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I'm going to look in to some of your suggestions and, if all else fails, put another few hundred rounds through it and see if it persists. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. Just a thought. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. Then compare frames and see what is different. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. You cannot paste images directly. It definitely had the issue less today (not every mag) but its still doing it. I just push it a fraction of an inch with my thumb, and it's good to go. try firing it. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. It won't load a round. Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. Several failures to go into battery per magazine? Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. If all fails, trade in and buy a Glock 19. It now passes the recoil spring test. Pics to come soon. Once I put the stock one back in no problems. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. 17s and a 26 but done here, but the methods should be the same on the 20. Clear editor. That's been my experience. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. I've been running Glock pistols since they came out with the G21 in .45acp over 30 years ago, that's when I sold my Colt 1911 and never looked back. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. Slide not fully returning to battery while trigger hasn't been reset (G19) So I have a G19, cerakoted slide. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? The slide hangs up on something about 1/2" back. Found the culprit. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-Armorers-Half-Slide-Cover-Plate, AR15 Optics decision/dilemma. Back to the G19m and several more failure to fires. This allowed the rear trigger housing to raise up and give me battery/jamming issues as well. None of my other Glocks do it. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. I was a little afraid to fire it after I ran the recoil spring test and it didn't go back into battery. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . I will let everyone know what I find out. Clear editor. so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. It's always good to close the loop when a problem is discussed. You cannot paste images directly. If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. What ammo? Your link has been automatically embedded. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. I dont have any aftermarket parts in it. Thoughts on city living: If I'm at the dump and worried about all the rats, I don't think about how much ammo it takes to shoot them all, I just leave the dump. I just pulled the firing pin safety and sure enough the spring had gotten tweeked when I reassembled it. I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. All Rights Reserved. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. My G21 Gen 4 would do the same thing from time to time when it was brand new. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. Lots of creep, but that is by design. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. Lord, make me fast and accurate. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. Glad you got it fixed. Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. Is it safe to shoot? I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. can your extractor move freely? While you are on our site, don't forget to check out our Glock Frame Disassembly, Glock Frame Reassembly, Glock Slide Disassembly and Reassembly as well as Glock Field Strip videos to learn more about the Glock pistols. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply Any . My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. Its light but mushy. I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! It's great. Building a V2 soon. On a defensive weapon, quite acceptable. thats one of my fears. are you certain that everything is installed properly? Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? BrianEnos.com Powered by Invision Community, failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. Put ammo in from the same box into my 92A1 and had no issues. that should fix it for sure, I assume you are using the "U" shaped washer as well ? 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Pasted as rich text. Turns out I reinstalled the takedown lever backwards. Interesting. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. Have you tried a different firing pin spring? Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin. The slide goes into battery, but the primer hits look off. I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX Kinda weird. I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. I checked and it looks fine. The slide isn't meant to be let down easy during normal use. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rochester-Personal-Defense-LLC/461665857219329, Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. Great info! February 21, 2022 in Glock. Nice pull and crisp break. It won't load a round. I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. Do the RSA's need lube? It will keep the gun just out of battery when reversed. On a side note, this gun did not want to feed my semiwadcutters at all, and also pinched my pinky a lot. I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Paste as plain text instead, 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. Glock 36's historically dislike certain ammo's, you just need to find the ammo it likes. Don't leave 10mm brass, someone here will be willing to pay cash for them. My 19 does that but when I shoot everything seems to be OK. Im planning on a press as my next significant purchase. JavaScript is disabled. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. BTW, it fired and function 100% last night for 250 rounds with the spring installed incorrectly. Paste as plain text instead, buddy19 Have you tried it with the factory barrel? A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. BrianEnos.com Everything else seems to be working fine. The gun has about 11,000 rounds through it. I still want a few more range trips before i start carrying it daily again but it seems we are on the right track. Would suggest taking the slide off, checking to see the position of the spring. I knew it was wrong cause I have a factory G17 gen 3. "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. If this is only an issue when easing the slide forward than it may not be an issue at all. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. 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